Ask Question. Asked 6 years, 1 month ago. Active 5 years, 5 months ago. Viewed 36k times. Improve this question. SevenSidedDie k 39 39 gold badges silver badges bronze badges. Add a comment. Active Oldest Votes. Class Changes Bards received more skill points and spells on their spell lists were changed. Clerics are allowed to spontaneously cast cure and inflict spells of the "mass" variety.
Druid Animal companions advance as the druid levels up now, making the druid more playable, Druids were given access to far more spells than before. Fighters Feat list received an overhaul and many of the feat descriptions changed. Monk's Flurry of Blows was changed to have different advancement, and received different options for bonus feats.
It didn't help much in the long run, Multi-attribute-deficiency cripples this class Paladin's can summon their mounts instead of them being ever-present. They can also smite evil more times per day. Rangers received a hit die increase, more skill points, Favored enemy and animal companion also received large revisions for the class, making it playable.
Sorcerers were allowed to make small revisions to their spells known when they level up but still have stunted casting when compared to wizards, picking up their spells a full level later Wizard spell specialization was changed, and Familiars bonus stats were changed as well. Skill Changes Alchemy was rolled into Craft Alchemy Animal Empathy was removed from the game and instead Ranger and Druid now get the skill as a class ability. Innuendo which before was used to covertly pass messages along was rolled into the Bluff skill.
That was what they advertised as their huge overhaul to the mechanics! Skywalker Back Off the Buddha! In 3e their baseline was very Fighter like. GreyICE said:. Victim Registered User Validated User. IMO, there are two big differences between 3. The first is that the official WotC supplement materials are generally somewhat better in overall quality, and a bit more balanced as well.
The second is the change to Haste. In high level 3. Changing the effective action economy of the game is a lot more of a difference than a lot of the other changes which have a much smaller individual impact. Golem's had their magic immunity severly weakened. Improved grapple really changes the combat dynamic.
To attack with a light weapon in grapple, you have to oppose grapple checks, succeed and then attack at -4 Power attack's 2 for 1 trade off on 2handed in 3. Web works 'like' it used to in Basic, 1E and 2E Lighning bolt is unneededly weakened Conjurations, even attack spells, rarly give spell resitance. I can only assume this was done because the rpga DM's have to follow the rules and not change them. Last edited: Feb 2, Thanks, frankthedm, you've been more than helpful.
Basically, we've illuminated how little I knew about all the little rules in the game. Plane Sailing Astral Admin - Mwahahaha! For the most comprehensive treatment of changes between 3. Scharlata First Post. Click to expand I have to point out that the wizards official document pales into insignificance compared to the work Olgar captured. Don't miss out on reading it! As an example, there are many changes to the spells, mostly tweeks but some spells changed levels.
Change booklet only hits a few high points. If you can I would suggest you get the 3. The spirit of the rules did not change, but many of the class, feat, skill and spell details did - lots and lots of little changes.
Like Jozan, said though, I would just start playing. When ever you first start playing, you are going to be confused sometimes and make mistakes, however the point of playing a game is to have fun - not be a rules expert. March 4th, , 7. Originally Posted by Griogre. March 4th, , 8. Changes to some spells were quite radical. However the original poster also mentioned he had the 3.
It is quite true that it doesn't mention things like duration changes, though. I don't believe this changes my suggestion to the original poster to just start playing. However, I think it is clear the sooner the OP starts using the 3. And there is a lot to "unlearn". Far more than the Conversion Guide implies.
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